A Podcast for Professional Services Business Development and Marketing
What sets top professional services business development teams apart? Discover the strategies, tactics, and tools they use to grow. Join Jason Noble as he interviews leading experts, sharing actionable advice for your growth initiatives, regardless of your business size or specialty.
LIVE at LMA 2025 with Roy Sexton, CMO of Vedder Price
Recorded live at the 2025 LMA Annual Conference, this episode features Jason Noble in conversation with Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer of Vedder Price. Known for his charisma and candor, Roy shares why storytelling and narrative memory are the secret weapons of effective legal marketing.
He reflects on his first few months at Vedder Price, how he’s building on a strong foundation to drive innovation, and why vulnerability and humor are essential leadership tools. From attorney engagement to brand transformation, Roy’s insights are as thoughtful as they are entertaining. A must-listen for anyone navigating the evolving role of marketing in law firms.
Meet our Host
Jason Noble
Jason Noble serves as the President and Co-Founder of ikaun, an innovative platform that leverages AI for experience management tailored to law firms and professional services. With over two decades of experience in technology, he has honed his expertise in developing digital platforms, particularly in knowledge management, business development, and AI integration within the legal industry. In his role at ikaun, he leads product strategy and innovation, focusing on automating the collection of experience data to enhance marketing efforts and boost proposal success rates.
Prior to establishing ikaun, Noble held the position of Vice President at Neudesic's Digital Innovation Group for nearly 20 years. His work there emphasized SharePoint solutions, cloud computing, and business intelligence. Noble is recognized for his ability to implement effective knowledge management strategies, aiding firms in identifying expertise to elevate client service. He is also a sought-after speaker on subjects such as Generative AI in legal marketing and improving RFP efficiency.
Discover Podcast Episodes
You'll hear exclusive interviews with the world's leading business development and marketing experts.
LIVE at LMA 2025 with Roy Sexton, CMO of Vedder Price
Recorded live at the 2025 LMA Annual Conference, this episode features Jason Noble in conversation with Roy Sexton, Chief Marketing Officer of Vedder Price. Known for his charisma and candor, Roy shares why storytelling and narrative memory are the secret weapons of effective legal marketing.
He reflects on his first few months at Vedder Price, how he’s building on a strong foundation to drive innovation, and why vulnerability and humor are essential leadership tools. From attorney engagement to brand transformation, Roy’s insights are as thoughtful as they are entertaining. A must-listen for anyone navigating the evolving role of marketing in law firms.
From Data Steward to Tech Leader: Kelly Sweeney on CRM, AI, and Legal Marketing
In legal marketing, tech is no longer just a support function—it’s the engine driving personalization, growth, and smarter strategy.
In the latest episode of The Pursuit Desk, Jason Noble sits down with Kelly Sweeney, Senior Manager of Marketing Technology, for a wide-ranging conversation on the evolution of legal martech, the rise of AI, and why clean data still rules.
Kelly shares her journey from early days as a data steward to leading major CRM and DealCloud implementations—and the mindset shift it takes to move from back-office tech to strategic enabler.
You'll hear Kelly and Jason discuss:
- Why marketing data is the "fast fashion" of BD—and how to make it sustainable
- The challenge of information hoarding in law firms (and how to beat it)
- The real power of AI: crafting client-ready narratives, not just dashboards
- How to align marketing tech with BD goals (and lawyer trust)
Live from LMA 2025 with HFW’s Debra Filippin on Client Listening That Works
What if your most powerful business development strategy wasn’t another pitch—but a conversation?
In this new episode of The Pursuit Desk, recorded live at the 2025 LMA Annual Conference, Jason Noble sits down with Debra Filippin, Head of Marketing and Business Development for Asia Pacific at HFW, to talk about the power of listening—and how law firms can turn feedback into lasting relationships.
Debra shares her path from studying law in Japan to leading client programs across global law firms. More importantly, she breaks down the blueprint behind her firm’s high-touch, face-to-face client listening program, including:
- Why clients do want to give feedback (and how to get them talking)
- How to prepare for and follow up on feedback to build trust, not just data
- The role of panels, pricing, and practice focus in deepening engagement
- Why value—not volume—is what matters in a relationship
If you’ve ever struggled to get honest client input, align internal teams, or prove the ROI of relationship management, this episode is for you.
What our listeners say
This podcast cuts through the noise. Every episode feels like a masterclass in how modern firms actually win business.
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“Finally, something that speaks the language of legal and professional services without overcomplicating it. Sharp, practical, and relevant.”
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"I’ve begun to set aside dedicated time for each new episode. The insights I gain are not only valuable but also immediately applicable to enhancing our approach to proposals and enriching our client conversations."
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"The combination of captivating storytelling and strategic insights creates an experience that is truly engaging. You initially arrive for the compelling narratives, but you find yourself sticking around for the valuable insights that follow."
"What I appreciate the most is the genuine honesty. It’s not bogged down by heavy theories—instead, it features real operators who openly share what truly works in practice."
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"Each episode presents at least one insightful idea that you can readily implement in your own life. This is a remarkable find in the current content landscape, where such gems are becoming increasingly rare."
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"Ikaun's podcast truly feels like an exclusive invitation to eavesdrop on conversations that are typically off-limits. With a lineup of thoughtful and engaging guests, it delivers rich insights without any unnecessary fluff."
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What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
What separates the highest performing professional services business development teams from rest? What strategies, tactics, systems, and technology tools are they using to grow their firm? Join us as we follow Jason Noble in his search for answers to these questions and more.
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